tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post7908441674521987090..comments2023-09-22T13:45:50.991-04:00Comments on Ohio Media Watch: DVR ALERT: PBS 45/49 Special On Akron TV NewsOhio Media Watchhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07003503894299610300noreply@blogger.comBlogger47125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-78764416468225037692010-01-27T21:09:16.099-05:002010-01-27T21:09:16.099-05:00IMO, the best way to get Akron news would be a low...IMO, the best way to get Akron news would be a low power station that could afford a few people to be a news department. Unfortunately, there isn't a low power network that covers both Akron and Canton (WIVM and its repeaters barely hit southern Summit, and WAOH barely makes it into Stark).Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-34193913347519333532007-07-26T11:56:00.000-04:002007-07-26T11:56:00.000-04:00Well Ed.... If you did this - great - congrats on ...Well Ed.... If you did this - great - congrats on your award. Why are you complaining about what someone else did - when they said they were specifically focusing on television - and then they did just that?!<BR/><BR/>One could only believe after reading this quote in your first post - 'I'll admit to a serious nose-out-of-joint over ignoring radio (hello?) for a subject ripe for serious discussion.' - that you wanted to generate this discussion. If you already did - great - why complain about the way others approach their story? They did it their way - you did it yours. You won an award so someone thought yours was good. I think this one was good to... Sorry it didn't focus on radio - but that doesn't make it a bad special. I would hope - someone with your expected knowledge of new judgement could see that.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Ed Esposito wrote - <BR/><BR/>"Perhaps you missed the coverage on WAKR of "Radio Wars" in 2004 which did exactly that (and won an SPJ award in the process) as well as coverage of the contiued efforts by local TV broadcasters to present a product aimed at Akron viewers, as well as open discussions with not only TV and radio but also newspaper journalists on coverage of major stories. Sorry you missed it...and the point of my post."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-78463606836809413242007-07-20T12:08:00.000-04:002007-07-20T12:08:00.000-04:00I have just weighed in with some thoughts on the S...I have just weighed in with some thoughts on the Special..with speculation on a potential "Akron-Canton TV Market" on my Cleveland Classic Media Blog.<BR/><BR/>http://clevelandclassicmedia.blogspot.com/2007/07/akron-canton-television-market-my.htmlTim Loneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15208281099970788558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-38545986007381182972007-07-19T07:56:00.000-04:002007-07-19T07:56:00.000-04:00Anon at 10:02, how about actually getting off your...Anon at 10:02, how about actually getting off your backside and looking at their applications. You're making accusations you are unable to substantiate. So how about shutting up and looking for yourself. Good Lord. Freaking whiners.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-41682808718184164092007-07-19T07:54:00.000-04:002007-07-19T07:54:00.000-04:00Anon at 9:06 said: "this is a public television s...Anon at 9:06 said: "this is a public television station? where is the diversity?"<BR/><BR/>So what if it's a public television station? That has no bearing. If you want diversity, then how about some African-Americans who are WORTHY of the position -- and not just placed there to meet an EOE requirement, which has been typical for years.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-50348875077756067422007-07-17T16:25:00.000-04:002007-07-17T16:25:00.000-04:00hey ed.. wow… your last post seems like you have a...hey ed.. wow… your last post seems like you have a bit of TV envy. please settle down and have a little bit more of a civilized discussion. while I am sure that your "Radio Wars" coverage was stellar... but if a tree falls in the forest and no one hears the radio special...did it really happen?<BR/><BR/>as for the documentary... I agree with the earlier poster who said this story did exactly what it claimed to do... gave a solid look at the loss of local TV in Akron. I thought the production was good, not spectacular but good... and far better than a college production...I mean when is last time someone on here has seen a college production?<BR/><BR/>Also Ed, I have worked in and around the biz for a number of years and your complaints are pretty similar to those of other radio guys...always getting mad about not being included at the big table with other local broadcast media, like TV affiliates. Radio has its place in every market but it does not make up for the presence of a TV news product. sorry Ed... this special had nothing to do with radio and I thought it was done very well and was thought provoking...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-5106767331784378222007-07-16T13:08:00.000-04:002007-07-16T13:08:00.000-04:00Perhaps you missed the coverage on WAKR of "Radio ...Perhaps you missed the coverage on WAKR of "Radio Wars" in 2004 which did exactly that (and won an SPJ award in the process) as well as coverage of the contiued efforts by local TV broadcasters to present a product aimed at Akron viewers, as well as open discussions with not only TV and radio but also newspaper journalists on coverage of major stories. Sorry you missed it...and the point of my post.<BR/><BR/>"Ummm.... Hey Ed Esposito.... The show was exactly what it claimed to be: A look at Akron television and how tv in the city died because of the way ratings are done; and the influence the Cleveland tv market has on tv in Akron. It did not claim to be about radio - and it wasn't. It barely mentioned newspapers - but the concentration was on TV not radio.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you should concentrate on your area of knowledge, which is radio, and let others do the same with theirs. If this is indeed a 'subject ripe for serious discussion' perhaps you could do so on WAKR-1590 instead of complaining about how others do their stories. <BR/><BR/>8:33 PM"Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-16420792204927808632007-07-15T16:53:00.000-04:002007-07-15T16:53:00.000-04:00OMW-You are probably the best one to ask this ques...OMW-<BR/><BR/>You are probably the best one to ask this question to:<BR/><BR/>If 23 had decided to dump ABC earlier then what they did, and go independent with a Cleveland tinge, would they (and their newscasts) had survived?<BR/><BR/>As they were, 23 always came off looking like Ch 5's "little brother" with the ABC affiliation.<BR/><BR/>Instead of trying to compete with the big dogs (3, 5, and 8), if 23 had decided to focus on going after the pre-CBS 19, 43, 55, and pre-home shopping 61, then I feel they (with their newscasts) may even still be going today.<BR/><BR/>I use 55 as an example, instead of being thought of as Ernest Angley's little rinky-dink AKRON station, they set their sights north and are now thought of as an integral CLEVELAND station<BR/><BR/>What say you?<BR/><BR/>P.S. Keep up the good work.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-8111610675372078932007-07-15T09:07:00.000-04:002007-07-15T09:07:00.000-04:00Some forgotten names...Former news boss Bob "Juggl...Some forgotten names...<BR/>Former news boss Bob "Juggler" Tayek is a spokesperson for the Catholic Diocese of Cleveland. <BR/><BR/>Former news assignment desk person Tim "Coleman Cooler" Culek's whereabouts are unknown.<BR/><BR/>Former news producer Pamela Dennis, I think, went to Youngstown tv.<BR/><BR/>I think former local legendary weather forecaster Bob Alto went into retirement. Bob was one of the nicest guys around.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-60686131403232000802007-07-15T08:02:00.000-04:002007-07-15T08:02:00.000-04:00No list of 23 alumni would be complete without Jim...No list of 23 alumni would be complete without Jim Kambrich. He's still in the business as an achor in Albany, NY. Still the funniest man I've ever met in TV News. Here's a link:<BR/><BR/>http://wnyt.com/article/stories/S98094.shtml?cat=10265Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-15478930197524870462007-07-14T21:00:00.000-04:002007-07-14T21:00:00.000-04:00We've really enjoyed the discussion here.It brings...We've really enjoyed the discussion here.<BR/><BR/>It brings us back to memories of our childhood, where we managed to get not one, but two tours of the WAKR-TV/WAKC-TV news operation.<BR/><BR/>The first was when we were about 8 years old. We have few memories of that, but have seen pictures later.<BR/><BR/>The second was many years later, when we were graciously given a tour thanks to Mark Williamson, long-time WAKC "23 Newsday" anchor and news director. We called up the station, literally out of nowhere, and got Mark...who was probably thrilled that someone expressed interest in the operation.<BR/><BR/>Those were the days when the "23 Newsday" set was oval, with a what-looked-to-be papier mache floating oval object hanging above the main set.<BR/><BR/>Weather anchor Jack Ryan was off on his own heavily-shag-carpeted island with an oval weather map that flipped around between an Ohio weather map and a national one.<BR/><BR/>Ah, the days!<BR/><BR/>Anyway, since then, we did catch this special, and yes, it looks like basically a televised college thesis - though done well enough, by the excellent Ohio University communications program.<BR/><BR/>And to clarify earlier comments, it appears Akron Mayor Don Plusquellic was not lamenting that "no one listens to radio" (hi, Tom Erickson!), but that the local radio audience is fragmented among several stations, each getting less than a certain share, and many in Cleveland.<BR/><BR/>As far as radio information goes, the entire story gave short shrift to the fact that Akron is served quite well in this category of "local radio"... not only by Mr. Erickson's employer, which runs local news 6 AM to 7 PM and local talk all day through the end of his show, but by the Rubber City Radio group's newsroom and even what WHLO/640 gets from local anchor Tom Duresky and reporter Greg Saber, who's often in Akron and Canton for stories of regional interest.<BR/><BR/>Is it the same as a full market of three competing TV newsrooms? Well, no.<BR/><BR/>But...<BR/><BR/>One point that was glossed over in the show in question: It's not just that Akron is roughly 35 miles from Cleveland.<BR/><BR/>It's that Akron is roughly 20 miles from the full-power transmitters for the Cleveland market stations, which are in the general area of Parma. The RF from those transmitters bathes most of greater Akron in a "grade A" signal.<BR/><BR/>THAT is what made Akron and nearby Canton unable to survive as a separate market. It's different than Dayton and Cincinnati, which are a little farther apart...<BR/><BR/>We'll keep this one open for comments the rest of the weekend, since the repeat aired Saturday morning, then close it on Monday.<BR/><BR/>--The ManagementOhio Media Watchhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07003503894299610300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-29374596538674151772007-07-14T08:28:00.000-04:002007-07-14T08:28:00.000-04:00I was just listing news people.I was just listing news people.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-59432398470641406132007-07-13T23:03:00.000-04:002007-07-13T23:03:00.000-04:00Re: WAKC/WAKR alums.How could you all forget Billy...Re: WAKC/WAKR alums.<BR/><BR/>How could you all forget Billy Soule??<BR/><BR/>A few of us still remember Billy as the host of a fine afternoon music video program, among other things. He now works in the mayor's office in Akron.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-22195554322879642532007-07-13T20:33:00.000-04:002007-07-13T20:33:00.000-04:00Ummm.... Hey Ed Esposito.... The show was exactly ...Ummm.... Hey Ed Esposito.... The show was exactly what it claimed to be: A look at Akron television and how tv in the city died because of the way ratings are done; and the influence the Cleveland tv market has on tv in Akron. It did not claim to be about radio - and it wasn't. It barely mentioned newspapers - but the concentration was on TV not radio.<BR/><BR/>Perhaps you should concentrate on your area of knowledge, which is radio, and let others do the same with theirs. If this is indeed a 'subject ripe for serious discussion' perhaps you could do so on WAKR-1590 instead of complaining about how others do their stories.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-33689103619775224972007-07-13T16:55:00.000-04:002007-07-13T16:55:00.000-04:00Frank DeMarco had done Cleveland State games for W...Frank DeMarco had done Cleveland State games for WKNR for a few years until last year when current radio voice and STO Indians pre/post game host Al Palowski took over.<BR/><BR/>Where Frank is now, I have no idea.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-33073151741473364262007-07-13T13:58:00.000-04:002007-07-13T13:58:00.000-04:00Tim:I knew Bob Wylie. I think he just did play by...Tim:<BR/><BR/>I knew Bob Wylie. I think he just did play by play for high school football and basketball on WAKR radio.<BR/><BR/>I think he also did radio sales at WAKR radio.<BR/><BR/>Don't remember him on the TV side.<BR/><BR/>Frank DeMarco is another WAKR-TV (and radio) alum. Don't know where he is now. Kent State maybe??<BR/><BR/>--newsnomoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-72442321601356125162007-07-13T13:35:00.000-04:002007-07-13T13:35:00.000-04:00I know in doing Retro-Schedules on the Radio Board...I know in doing Retro-Schedules on the Radio Boards lately, The name Bob Wylie comes up as doing sports..He was there a long time and passed away in the last couple years. Also someone in the 50's by the name of Bill Murphy..Dont know anything about him..And while he was not on the "News Team" per se..PBA founder Eddie Elias had a weekly or twice weekly sports show called "Trophy Room" In the late 1950'sTim Loneshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15208281099970788558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-83022374558425078672007-07-13T13:24:00.000-04:002007-07-13T13:24:00.000-04:00Former 23 newspeople:Carol Costello-CNNCarole Sull...Former 23 newspeople:<BR/><BR/>Carol Costello-CNN<BR/>Carole Sullivan-WKYC<BR/>Eric Mansfield-WKYC<BR/>Mark Nolan-WKYC<BR/>Mark Johnson-WEWS<BR/>Mike DiPasquale-WSVN/Miami<BR/>Len Rome-WYTV/Youngstown<BR/>Mike Snyder-WTAM<BR/>Laura Bailey-Buffalo TV<BR/>Dick Russ-WKYC<BR/>Tom Erickson-WNIR<BR/>Pat Kinnard-WAKR<BR/>Phil Ferguson-WNIR<BR/>Greg Saber-WTAM<BR/><BR/>No longer in biz:<BR/><BR/>Mark Williamson-City of Akron<BR/>Rich Barnett-Wadsworth Schools<BR/>Phil Hoffman-U of Akron<BR/>Joyce Johnson-U of Akron/ABJ<BR/>Lita Jensen-?<BR/>Joanna Porzak-?<BR/>Mindy McCortney-Infomercials in FLA<BR/>Rob Dumke-Summit Co.?<BR/>Don Ursetti-Summit Co?<BR/>Bob Jeffries-Attorney<BR/><BR/><BR/>RIP<BR/>Kenny Halterman<BR/>Jolly Jack Ryan<BR/>Fred Anthoney<BR/>Bill McKay<BR/>Ron Edwards<BR/><BR/>MIA<BR/>Patty Patang, anchor<BR/>Debbie Cutter, anchor<BR/>Barb Compton, rep;orter<BR/>Carl Dickens, news director<BR/>Marcie Messet, anchor<BR/>Tom Shay, anchor/reporter<BR/><BR/>My brain is tired...please fill in the blanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-91393511756993691622007-07-12T16:51:00.000-04:002007-07-12T16:51:00.000-04:00The news archives were donated to the Univ of Akro...The news archives were donated to the Univ of Akron's library. I see a lot of firm opinions here concerning the operation of the early TV23 based on information that is incorrect. The syndicators of barter programs wouldn't place them on 23 saying that it wasn't a true Cleveland station. The syndicators that expected cash for programs said that since 23 was a Cleveland station, they should pay full price for the shows. That was often tens of thousands of dollars per episode! Too steep for a small market station--- and that's what 23 truly was. If it were move away from the Cleveland DMA, it would be somewhere just below top 50, I believe. In order to buy programming, we went to the other stations and asked them to release shows that they had "on the shelf" and never planned to air. Or, tried to convince the syndicators that placing the program with 23 first then, if it was a good as they it was, the Cleveland stations would still buy it. It worked a few times. 23 was a "starter" station... hiring former interns just out of college... that's what they could afford. The had some long time staff members that taught the newbies and helped them develop their talent. Most of the new folks moved on to larger markets then. Check out the staffs of the Cleveland stations... many are grads of TV23. Ted Henry, Mark Johnson are two that all see daily. Many behind the scenes as well. Some are now at CNN, producing the "Heroes", etc. There, I feel better.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-35861853431670778092007-07-12T09:15:00.000-04:002007-07-12T09:15:00.000-04:00Regarding the late WAKC/WAKR; whatever became of i...Regarding the late WAKC/WAKR; whatever became of its news archives? Did they get tossed out the door along with the newsroom staff? I've also wondered the same thing about footage from WJAN and WOAC in Canton.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-48654112296055442712007-07-12T07:30:00.000-04:002007-07-12T07:30:00.000-04:00WBNX may well do news someday, but as has been men...WBNX may well do news someday, but as has been mentioned earlier, they are a Cleveland station in all ways except on their FCC license.<BR/><BR/>They aren't going to do an Akron specific newscast.<BR/><BR/>55 wants to be a big boy TV station, so if they do news, it would be Cleveland based and Cleveland focused with some Akron tidbits thrown in as garnish.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-8620775915880460672007-07-12T01:03:00.000-04:002007-07-12T01:03:00.000-04:00Speaking of news, whatever happened to that suppos...Speaking of news, whatever happened to that supposed HD conversion at WOIO? I remember reading here around the beginning of this year that they were going to do it in June, but that sounded impossible. Any updates?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-25196561702416122732007-07-11T22:03:00.000-04:002007-07-11T22:03:00.000-04:00Viewed the trailer...yep, college production.not b...Viewed the trailer...<BR/><BR/>yep, college production.<BR/><BR/>not bad though..for college. Wish we did that stuff when I was in school.<BR/><BR/>Thanks for the link.<BR/><BR/>-newsnomoreAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-79081186051030260042007-07-11T19:38:00.000-04:002007-07-11T19:38:00.000-04:00I would not rule out WBNX. I'm sure that Ernie has...I would not rule out WBNX. I'm sure that Ernie has considered doing a newscast, but it never happened because(like Eric Mansfield even said) it takes alot of time and money to produce a newscast. As good as WBNX is doing, they dont have the resources to do it. A duopoly would help their station. Some work needs to be done to the Akron Canton News, like a new set and maybe a co-anchor and more reporters. Having 10pm news for an hour would make another hour to sell local commercials. A newscast would get more viewers that reruns of Friends. I've always wondered why WBNX does not do news, and now their page banner says local news weather and sports(wbnx.com has a much better website than WUAB)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-13975530.post-28219679063548445842007-07-11T18:18:00.000-04:002007-07-11T18:18:00.000-04:00A simple yahoo check had this info as well. how c...A simple yahoo check had this info as well. how come no one does a yahoo search?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com